used to?)
Your points seem to me all very well founded!
Tom
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:39:50 -0800
> From: erik/susan davis
> To: "letterbox-usa@egroups.com"
> Subject: [L-USA] Generating Interest, Vandals, etc
> To Letterboxers All:
> An interesting day of posts: My $0.02 USD (thanks Marty):
>
> About Promotion:
> I am in agreement that we need to take a proactive approach to growing
> this hobby - we've gotten a great start, for sure, but all of us would
> like to have more boxes to look for, and growth is the way for this to
> happen. 50 in YK2
>
> However, I am not in favor of any sort of mass-promotion, via the new
> or otherwise. Small articles, as those in rubber-stamp publications,
> etc, are fine, and, as Graham suggested, perhaps targeting special
> interest groups (bird watchers or boy scouts) also has merit. But I am
> most in favor of keeping it local.
>
> We are each the seed of a nuculus that must grow in our respective
> areas to make this work. If anyone of us can't generate enough interest
> in our own backyard, we'll have nothing left to do but talk on the net
> about it. I view the net primarily as a way for us to share ideas among
> us about issues and experiences that we as individuals have had.
>
> So, to that end, promotion should be an individual and LOCAL choice. We
> can collectively develop some helpful "aids" to share among us, perhaps
> accessed only by folks on the list, but not visable to the web page
> generally? These might be for downloading/modifying/printing to pass
> about as we as individuals see fit? I agree with the sentiments of keep
> it simple and rubber-stampish, not glitzy or "commercial".
>
> There are lots of local options for promotion, many of which have been
> discussed, some done. Tom Cooch has already involved a library, and some
> of his students. My son and two friends want to bring it to cub scouts.
> These are the sorts of activities that build local 'critical mass'. So,
> as we go forward, lets share experiences such as these that have (or
> haven't) worked.
>
> About Vandalism:
> RE: the lost Texas boxes, I think I've concluded that someone found the
> first by accident, found out about the web page thru info in the box,
> and went and found clues and boxes as a result. To me, this is the only
> logical conclusion. Why?
> Julie seems to have eliminated natural (water, animals, etc.),
> and, I just don't think there is a cross-country conspiracy (from the
> previous missing boxes elsewhere), and no one is going to accidentally
> find
> three in so short a span, and, finally, three different accidental finds
> by different persons in so short a span is unlikely. So, what other
> conclusion is possible?
>
> That said, I don't feel that having clues on the net is the problem -
> they have to be published someplace and, they can always be recopied and
> passed along - we really cannot hope to control whose hands they get to
> forever.
> I think we each make a decision: Simple clues, easily found are more at
> risk but perhaps better for boxes geared for kids. Cryptic, or long and
> complicated clues, are safer, and more appealing for die-hard
> letterboxers. The risk/benefit realities should be clear to each of us
> by now - perhaps this is a good reason NOT to state difficulty on a web
> page - a web-surfing-vandal will just grab the easy ones?
>
> I do think, however, that this 'issue' has consumed far more time than
> is beneficial (no offense meant here, Julie). I am concerned that all
> this discussion, including ways to make it more difficult, may just
> serve to increase the 'problem' - sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy.
> This may involve the same sort of mind that pulls fire alarms and calls
> in danger scares to schools - fun to watch the results in the media, in
> this case - us. It was good to talk it out, however.
>
> Finally, I think it would be GREAT to have Adrian or Graham over here to
> visit, hunt for boxes, and talk to the local schoolkids.
>
> This is far too long. Please excuse muy manners!
>
> Erik
>
>
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